Religion. Thats Right. A Religion Thread.

[jessibear22]

Okay. I'm having some questions here.

My friend said this to me when asked what religion he was a part of.
"im catholic but i dont believe in it"
And I'm just like "Whoa man. Hold on there"

Okay. People. What is going on in the world today? Was I just raised in an extremely un-religious household, or do people actually MAKE their kids say they're whatever religion the parents are?

I don't get that.

Okay, and another thing. If that is true. Why the fuck do people do that?! I mean, come on! LET YOUR KIDS THINK!
-And even with that. Why do people always have to put a label on their belief system? Do people HAVE to be Christian, Catholic, Wiccan, Buddhist, or Satanic? (Or any of the other organized religions out there)

Like. Let people believe what they believe. If they want to believe that a unicorn ate a star and shat out the universe, let them believe that. If they want to believe Tom Cruise and his Scientology bit, let them believe it.

STOP DISCRIMINATING ABOUT RELIGION.

(whoa. sorry about my rant >_>)_

Okay. AANYWAY.

I'd like to know what peoples beliefs are. Like.. I study theology as hardcore as a 16 year old can. And I want to know..even if you're part of an organized religion, more power to you...Just..I want to know what you believe.

But also, do you have anything within your beliefs that have been taught to you but you don't believe?

I'm so curious.

:]

[xXx_Zachy_xXx]

Originally Posted by jessibear22

Like. Let people believe what they believe. If they want to believe that a unicorn ate a star and shat out the universe, let them believe that.

ROFL.
sigg'd!

[jessibear22]

and this is why I love you, Zachy.

[Njord]

I'm confused about what exactly you are ranting about.

Why is religion organized? Because as we learn it, we need others to teach us. Why is education organized? Same reason.

Parents shouldn't force their religion on their children, and ultimately don't when it comes to Christianity. Only because accepting Christ into your heart is a personal choice and cannot be done by anyone other than yourself. Even if you're "baptized" or christened as a baby, you're not a true believer/christian until you accept him for yourself.

Why do we label beliefs..Actually, others label beliefs, not the practitioners. The word "Christian" was an insult when it was first derived, meaning something like "delusional follower of Christ" or "blind follower of Christ" is closer.

My beliefs are within the Christian Bible and none other I consider canon to God's word.

Beliefs I may have outside of what I interpret in the bible are few, maybe none, because everything I believe is there. A recent one that really stuck with me was how the bible described the universe ending, "Folding upon itself" which is how most scientists predict will happen at the very end. The Universe will stop expanding and start shrinking again until all matter comes to one point.

There's nothing I don't believe that I can think of.

[SachiSushi]

I don’t believe that parents actually require their children to state what religion they are as if they have fully determined in what way to live their lives. Your friend saying, “I’m catholic, but I don’t believe in it”, is not implying that he is forced to state that what his parents have chosen to believe. It’s very possible to interpret it that way, but you’re a smart girl. You can also conclude that he is simply stating that he is raised as catholic, but, as he stated, does not believe or agree with its teachings or beliefs. That’s all there is to get.

Why do people label beliefs? They want to be separated from others who believe differently and create names to form distinction. Also, as Njord previously stated, they are things that are meant to be taught.

As for that Tom Cruise and Scientology thing, everyone has their own opinions. People who say that it’s wrong for him to believe in Scientology are, in my opinion, stupid. They only say this because they disagree with the religions theories and beliefs, many times, suggesting that they know better. No one really KNOWS anything; they can only have faith and believe. Everybody has their own opinions and have a right to express them. Stating that they disagree, which many people do, is not wrong.

I’m a Christian. I choose to believe the teachings of Jesus and those within the Bible. There are some teachings which I disagree with, but I believe that God, not only judges us on what laws we follow but how. There are many different interpretations on what the Bible teaches us and I believe that we try our best in life to follow God’s word and honor him with our lives; we are not in the wrong. After all, there is no perfect Christian.

(Sorry to end things so abruptly, I just have nothing to further continue on)

[DagoFlip]

Originally Posted by Njord

I'm confused about what exactly you are ranting about.

Why is religion organized? Because as we learn it, we need others to teach us. Why is education organized? Same reason.

Parents shouldn't force their religion on their children, and ultimately don't when it comes to Christianity. Only because accepting Christ into your heart is a personal choice and cannot be done by anyone other than yourself. Even if you're "baptized" or christened as a baby, you're not a true believer/christian until you accept him for yourself.

Why do we label beliefs..Actually, others label beliefs, not the practitioners. The word "Christian" was an insult when it was first derived, meaning something like "delusional follower of Christ" or "blind follower of Christ" is closer.

My beliefs are within the Christian Bible and none other I consider canon to God's word.

Beliefs I may have outside of what I interpret in the bible are few, maybe none, because everything I believe is there. A recent one that really stuck with me was how the bible described the universe ending, "Folding upon itself" which is how most scientists predict will happen at the very end. The Universe will stop expanding and start shrinking again until all matter comes to one point.

There's nothing I don't believe that I can think of.

Man i love this guy!

YOUR A TRUE HERO NJORD!

[Insaneblob]

As Marcus Brigstocke once said, "A four year old is no more a Christian than he is a member of the postal workers union". Parents should never push their beliefs on their children. I have grown up in a household which would definitely call itself Christian (although they don't identify with a specific form of Christianity, just the overall ideas), yet I definitely am not at all religious. Yet I've known people have severe family problems because their parents tried to force them into a religious way of thinking that they couldn't accept.
But then on the other side I've seen people who became religious on their own condemn their parents to hell for not believing.
The worst kind of religios people are those who try to force their beliefs on others to "save their soul" or some such. In this way religion becomes an actively destructive force, often ruining the lives of those it is being forced on.

[jessibear22]

Originally Posted by Insaneblob

The worst kind of religios people are those who try to force their beliefs on others to "save their soul" or some such. In this way religion becomes an actively destructive force, often ruining the lives of those it is being forced on.

That was what I was trying to say.

Even though I fully failed at articulating that.

I don't like that people like to force their beliefs on children, friends, and just other people. It's wrong.

Believe what you want to believe, talk about it, debate it, but just don't tell someone they HAVE to believe in the SAME things you do...

Thats just wrong.

I, personally, mesh a shitload of beliefs together. I do believe in some teachings of the bible, but I also believe in some Buddhist teachings, and a lot of Wiccan beliefs... but I have some hardcore Christian friends, and I have athiest parents. Religions can meld...people can get along regardless of their religion.

So... I dunno. It's just like.. man, come on...stop forcing it on people.

(again..I ramble moreso than rant..oops. >_<. sorry)

[ZcrBz / PongPia]

I'm an SDA (Seventh-Day Adventist) and we don't eat things like pork. But recently I've been consuming some

Since I've become a fan of Bjork and "bjorked" by her thoughts, I guess everyone can believe in what they want. Now it's more important to have good relationship with people around the world, rather than seeking "self-cleansing" thingy...

By the way, if the 'heaven' is only reserved to one group of religion, then how about the others? Are all of them going to be put in hell? That is just not fair.

[tyrocks00]

i was raised in a very non religious household also and i think my parents did a good job...religion does make someone any better than someone else