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Old 10-16-2007, 01:47 PM
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But what is wrong with stereotypes? Aren't the majority of them not far from being truthful? I mean, don't ALOT of blacks and Hispanics commit the majority of crimes, seem to care the least about education, out of all the people in North America?

I mean, Irish people DO often have hot tempers. I mean, the stereotypes about males and females are especially true.


I think the main cause for racism is, yes, ignorance, but not necessarily how Nikias views it. Honestly, I think it is poor reasoning that they use, but want to believe it because it seems mostly true, so they assume that since, according to their reasoning, a black person likely does this because he is black, most blacks will do the same thing because, of course, they are black.

Now, some races have certain characteristics seemingly exclusive to their race, but racism is, like Nikias said, ignorance. I just believe it is ignoring proper reasoning at their convenience.

Why does it get people so hot-tempered? Because racism is false reasoning, thus plainly false. That is why.

And yes, I too think affirmative action is utter crap. It's the same reasoning involved with racism, just with certain information biased in the other direction of racism. I mean, what REALLY is the difference between hating and discriminating against someone because they're black/hispanic/white, and having to hire them because they're of one those ethnic groups? Essentially, the reasoning, and certainly the rationale, is JUST AS BAD.

And I find racial jokes hilarious. Why? Because placing a person who fits a stereotype that causes the joke to exist IN the joke makes it make sense, thus probably humorous. I don't see the big deal in them.
So you're kind of saying that because a black person does something, other people copy because it's a black person doing it so that common bond makes it more acceptable for them to do a certain thing? Monkey see monkey do.

I know some things are brought on by environmental surrounding but the idea that hispanics dont care as much about education or commit more crime rates compared to the other people for example is stupid.
It's not like there is a gene for this or a culture that promotes this.
Maybe the stereotypes get people to have prejudices and discriminate against a certain race.

So if a person who takes the stereotypes as face value- they would much more like to be cynical against a hispanic in fear they aren't trust worthy in employment or assume they have a lack of education and the Hispanics feel the worst off and i guess some do resort to crime or give up on education because people give up on them.

By laughing and seeing no problem in stereotypes, although lighthearted to you, may appear like you are supporting it and you are encouraging it.

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i don't have a problem with racism in my community. Strange seeing as i am a ethnic majority at my hometown but the school has a zero tolorance on bullying/racism and raising awareness does help.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:49 PM
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We have no obvious racism problems here.


The only groups we discriminate against are nigger and illegal, however, neither are a race or colour.
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Old 10-16-2007, 02:53 PM
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texas right? suuuure, no racial problems in texas...
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Old 10-16-2007, 09:12 PM
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So you're kind of saying that because a black person does something, other people copy because it's a black person doing it so that common bond makes it more acceptable for them to do a certain thing? Monkey see monkey do.

I know some things are brought on by environmental surrounding but the idea that hispanics dont care as much about education or commit more crime rates compared to the other people for example is stupid.
It's not like there is a gene for this or a culture that promotes this.
Maybe the stereotypes get people to have prejudices and discriminate against a certain race.

No, not at all. It's just a pattern that leads eventual racists to be racists. The reason the pattern exists is because of much older generation's upbringing and environment. Being sold in slavery hurt blacks the most because it limited them to practically no opportunity to get an education and have a career. Now, it's not a big deal, but some are still affected by it because education hasn't been a priority in their family.

It's unfortunate, but it seems to be the case.
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Old 10-17-2007, 07:07 AM
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Those views were based off my observation of human behavior and my interpretation of the Bible. Obviously, referring to the Bible, it is a biased view. However, they consisted of NO material outside my observations and the Bible.

My view that alot of gays are pretending to be gay for the simple reason of advancing socially is easy because women are interested in men who act very similarly to how modern gays do. I still don't see how my view is even unreasonable, if that is what you're implying, Nikias.

Also, you're right on the smaller truths comment.
Ok. Now just fill in how my friend John, who is gay but doesn't act like the sterotypical gay man you seem to think all gays are, isn't hardcore into fashion, doesn't talk with a lisp, and has a boyfriend whom he loves very much and ZERO interest in woman. Explain to me how he's only putting on an act to get women? Explain to me how this assumption is more reasonable than the assumption that he's gay?
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I live in Louisiana. Try and guess how racism is around here lately.
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Ok. Now just fill in how my friend John, who is gay but doesn't act like the sterotypical gay man you seem to think all gays are, isn't hardcore into fashion, doesn't talk with a lisp, and has a boyfriend whom he loves very much and ZERO interest in woman. Explain to me how he's only putting on an act to get women? Explain to me how this assumption is more reasonable than the assumption that he's gay?
I'll agree that it simply can't be a front to get women.

Then again, the gay mind is a great mystery.
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I'll agree that it simply can't be a front to get women.

Then again, the gay mind is a great mystery.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:42 PM
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I'll agree that it simply can't be a front to get women.

Then again, the gay mind is a great mystery.
A great mystery? Umm...the human mind is a great mystery. Gays are humans. That's the only way in which your statement holds true. A gay mind is identical to a straight mind save for a single three-way switch being flipped one way instead of another.
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I think Adam is hot. And looks the best in aviators. In fact, I bet he gets laid. A LOT. (by Jess. )

Clearly Jess either A) doesn't know what aviators are or B) is joking.
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Old 10-17-2007, 01:49 PM
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texas right? suuuure, no racial problems in texas...
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