Because our president is a dumbass
Sorry I had to put my two cents in

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Oh...this is a forum. People can spew their idiotic opinions all they want. No one cares if you don't like that.

"There's nothing natural about being human? Then what the hell would you call it? We don't challenge anything. We take natural substances, and make more advanced stuff. It's still natural. You are basically telling me that if you mix a bottle of coke and a can of coke...it's not coke afterwards. So nice try"

We don't challenge anything? Are you oblivious or do you live in a village in Africa? And your coke metaphor makes no sense whatsoever. make.a.better.example. You need to work on your vocabulary, because apparently you don't know what natural is...let me show you.

nat·u·ral - existing in or formed by nature(NOT HUMANS)
growing spontaneously, without being planted or tended by human hand(SEE THAT? BY HUMAN HAND)
happening in the ordinary or usual course of things, without n intervention(YUP, WE INTERVENED A LOOONG TIME AGO)

I'm pretty sure that nature didn't form COKE OR THAT PLASTIC BOTTLE OR THAT CAN. Unless, somehow, uknown to man, Coke spurts up out of the ground, and tiny little red cans fall from trees, and little squirrels shit out plastic bottles. Just face it, our bodies aren't even natural! Braces, fake teeth, metal plates, immunity shots, plastic surgery. We have come to depend on sythetic materials... Humans defy the natural, we are aything but.

Oh... and the reason gay marriage is growing more controversial? Because stupid people won't get off their high horse and see it any other way. Its their way or the highway, and thats not fair. But then again, none of them know how to look at it from someone elses perspective, and they don't care...and thats their problem right there.

Hmmm, this is actually a very good topic and I enjoy debating over it.

RANT OVER.

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2 things are infinite: The Universe and Human Stupidity...and I'm not even sure about the Universe

Tools are one thing, machines are another. Tools are things like sticks, rocks, sharpened objects, etc.
Machines are things like slaughterhouses or guns. Those two things are hardly natural.

Uhh, what other animal do you see trading?


So if a girl looks at a beauty magazine, and starts starving herself to look like the girls in the magazines, that's natural?

Lol, again, what other animal do you see creating foods that complex?

Then...science does? If science made homosexuality 'not natural', then I suppose humans would be the only species that can be homosexual? Oh wait, we're not.
The only reason we as humans find it to be deviant, is because of culture: culture created by religion.

I wasn't calling his opinion idiotic genius, I was calling his little "attack" on me idiotic. He is trying to use what I believe against me, which obviously didn't work. And obviously people DO care what I think, because look at my status, and look at yours But back to the point.

Your guy's rants towards my opinion is totally out of line. I COULD continue here and back up my opinion, but I won't. Because you guys wanna gang up on little ol F2C Then so be it.

Again, I'm against it. It's not natural. It's not what nature intended.(Notice that part Zach, I said it's not what NATURE intended, I didn't mention religion, so stay on track.)

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It wasn't an attack? It's a forum, and we're debating on a subject. You've previously stated that you beleive in evolution, and there's nothing to suggest that homosexuality is unnatural from that point of view, unless you put religion into the picture.



How is it out of line? You made viciously homophobic statements, and we're homosexual.

...reread my previous post:
"Then...science does? If science made homosexuality 'not natural', then I suppose humans would be the only species that can be homosexual? Oh wait, we're not.
The only reason we as humans find it to be deviant, is because of culture: culture created by religion."

ok seriously it is illegal because one small group of ppl...WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES BUD! the government is getting psued for it beacause it is totally 100% against our constitution "all men are created equal" then gays are not being treated equal!

No religion involved. And obviously there is, because that's my opinion.


I said my opinion. I see no vicious homophobic statements. I'm against it, it isn't natural. It's not homophobic, nor vicious. It's my opinion. Get over it.

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For the millionth time, if homosexuality was not natural, humans would not be the only species prone to being homosexual.

ZOMFFGGG GODDDAAAMNNNN ALLL YOUUU GAYS TO HELL!!!
MAY YOU SPEND ETERNITY THERE FOR YOU DEFIANT ACTS AGAINST THE LORD, AND SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST!

ehh, JKKKKK JUST KIDDINGGGG

who are we to say that it's not natural? Is liking one color or food over another natural?
If it isnt, then it shouldnt be aloud by society.
Put your goddamn brain caps on people, its JUST a NATURAL preference (ie:can't be changed0
fuck, i like one pair of shoes over another....does that mean im damned to eternity? no
theyre people....let them do wut they want. How would you feel if someone said OHH NOEESSS YOU CANT MARRY HER! ya, it'd suck


although, thank God, everyone here knows im TeenPhrase's E-Player and im NEVA GETIN MARRIED BIATCH

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So if a girl looks at a beauty magazine, and starts starving herself to look like the girls in the magazines, that's natural?




I'd like to say something about this post, I know lots of girls who wanna look like a Victoria Secret model or something close to that, me Im ok with who I am and what I look like, but yes It is natural for some girls to wanna to do that, not all of them will turn to starving themselves but they will do it if they have enough self esteem issues...or they are just plain crazy

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