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Old 04-13-2008, 09:45 PM
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Default Is it really that hard. No.

I don't even know why I'm on here. I'm really not the type of person that goes ranting about problems online, trying to make my life seem dramatic.

Anyways, I'm 16 and to keep things simple I'll just call myself gay. (I will state, however, that I HATE labels, and no one really can or should identify themselves as something as exclusive as "gay" because when it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter who you love as long as you're happy.)

If I haven't sounded bitchy enough, I'm sure it'll get worse.. because to be honest, I'm a little pissed.

I'm not really sure how much information about myself I should include, but I figure how can you relate or try to understand my problem if you do not know me.

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Where to start.. I don't go around telling people I'm gay, and no one really asks, so I'm not "out". Some/Most of my close(r) friends know, but it's kind of a "Don't ask, don't tell" thing. My dad is homophobic, which is one of the main reasons that I haven't officially come out.

The most common question I get is "when did you know you were gay?" My answer: The day I knew I was gay was the day when I was supposed to be delivered and I said Hell NO Bitch, I'm not getting near that thing. The doctors waited two weeks before doing a cesarean operation.

When I was younger, I was the typical "ladies man" or whatever. My first girlfriend was in the first grade. (Here's a tip for all of you breeders: If you want a girlfriend, try being their friend. No one wants to date an asshole.) However, when middle school came around and being smart was no longer a good thing, I found myself at the bottom of the social pool. Needless to say, it was quite the fall from grace.

Since my school goes from 6th to 12th grade, a fresh start wasn't an option and changing people's impression was next to impossible. But over the years, I lost my abrasive attitude and now find myself more well liked. I wouldn't quite say popular, but this isn't Disney Channel, so what do you expect.

So now, I'm a Jr. in high school, well on the way to college, have friends, a driver's license and car, go to parties, and even if I don't have the happiest family, I would consider myself lucky for the most part. I have been depressed in the past (professionally diagnosed and treated), but that part of my life is well over. So what's missing?

I can't seem to find anyone. And it's so, so, so frustrating. It's like, you'll flirt and wrestle with me on your bed, but you are such a coward to deny that you're gay? Or in other cases, it's me flirting with you and putting myself out there for you to take, and the biggest move you can come up with is leaving your hand on my knee for a couple minutes.

I love the facial expression on the guy that I'm sure is gay, always gives me looks, and finally one day walked in my direction as I passed him in the hall, and with no one else around, started to say something, then stood with his mouth open for the thirty seconds it took for me to loose patience and walk to my next class.

Or how about the asshole who treats pretty much everyone like crap and acts like a chauvinistic jock yet lacks the body and looks that I'm sure intended for me to overhear him telling his dumb pot head friends that he is bi curious and would like to do something with a guy, and then gives me a trying-to-be-seductive stare the next day. And when I mean stare, I'm not talking about a two second look. I'm talking about looking at me for pretty much the whole class. Or at least whenever I looked in his direction the few times I wasn't sleeping. And yes, I am sure that he was trying to insinuate something, because I can read people well.

So is it really that hard to find someone? Are people really so scared to be something that they are? I don't understand how people can be so... obsessed with what others think of them. I also don't understand how people are so quick to conform or accept ideas and don't stop to question any of it. I'm tired of people that are so single minded and living in their own world. Where are the down to earth, caring, lovable, brave, and independent (single) guys?

I guess I can't really expect that in high school can I? Well if there is anyone (under 18) that isn't a brainwashed sheep, feel free to contact me. I'm waiting..



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and I'm more than sure I'm going to regret posting this two seconds after I do.
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Old 04-13-2008, 09:58 PM
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Anyways, I'm 16 and to keep things simple I'll just call myself gay. (I will state, however, that I HATE labels, and no one really can or should identify themselves as something as exclusive as "gay" because when it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter who you love as long as you're happy.)
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Where are the down to earth, caring, lovable, brave, and independent (single) guys?

I guess I can't really expect that in high school can I? Well if there is anyone (under 18) that isn't a brainwashed sheep, feel free to contact me. I'm waiting..
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if i was "labeled" as "gay" i would totally hit on u bro!
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if i was "labeled" as "gay" i would totally hit on u bro!
Well isn't that nice..
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I don't even know why I'm on here. I'm really not the type of person that goes ranting about problems online, trying to make my life seem dramatic.
Yeah you are, but Njord will forgive.

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Anyways, I'm 16 and to keep things simple I'll just call myself gay. (I will state, however, that I HATE labels, and no one really can or should identify themselves as something as exclusive as "gay" because when it comes down to it, it really doesn't matter who you love as long as you're happy.)
Okay..Njord is beginning to believe you're an idiot. So you don't call yourself human, a man, DeliciouslyUgly, because they're labels as well you know? God.

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The most common question I get is "when did you know you were gay?" My answer: The day I knew I was gay was the day when I was supposed to be delivered and I said Hell NO Bitch, I'm not getting near that thing. The doctors waited two weeks before doing a cesarean operation.
Try again. This isn't a sign or evidence that you're gay.

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When I was younger, I was the typical "ladies man" or whatever. My first girlfriend was in the first grade. (Here's a tip for all of you breeders: If you want a girlfriend, try being their friend. No one wants to date an asshole.)
Then how were you born gay, as stated so above.

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However, when middle school came around and being smart was no longer a good thing, I found myself at the bottom of the social pool. Needless to say, it was quite the fall from grace.
haha..Njord sees where this is going. So you were unpopular with teh ladies and began to think men were your niche? Get real..after girls get their periods, it becomes more of a challange to get them. The "Do you like me? Check Yes or No" notes don't work as well anymore.


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Since my school goes from 6th to 12th grade, a fresh start wasn't an option
Every year is a fresh start, you were just too much of an idiot to figure that out.
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and changing people's impression was next to impossible.
Nope.
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But over the years, I lost my abrasive attitude and now find myself more well liked.
proving your above statement, false.


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I can't seem to find anyone.
Probably because you aren't gay.

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So is it really that hard to find someone?
If you aren't gay..then probably so.
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Are people really so scared to be something that they are?
If they aren't gay, then this has no grounds. According to you, you aren't gay either.
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I don't understand how people can be so... obsessed with what others think of them.
Hmm..This is weird because, the girls ignoring you (or your popularity in general) in school seems to be the grounds of your "homosexuality." Practice what you preach.
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I also don't understand how people are so quick to conform or accept ideas and don't stop to question any of it.
Same answer as above.

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I'm tired of people that are so single minded and living in their own world. Where are the down to earth, caring, lovable, brave, and independent (single) guys?
No where?

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I guess I can't really expect that in high school can I? Well if there is anyone (under 18) that isn't a brainwashed sheep, feel free to contact me. I'm waiting..
Let's stop trying to get ass on the internet. That's pathetic.

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and I'm more than sure I'm going to regret posting this two seconds after I do.
Probably so.
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I'm not sure what you want us to say. Is there a question that needs answering or what? I'm pretty sure what you just described is "the perfect guy", which requires some work to find of course, but I don't know what to tell you. You are in high school, which is full of immature teenagers, so good luck?
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Yeah you are, but Njord will forgive.


Okay..Njord is beginning to believe you're an idiot. So you don't call yourself human, a man, DeliciouslyUgly, because they're labels as well you know? God.


Try again. This isn't a sign or evidence that you're gay.


Then how were you born gay, as stated so above.


haha..Njord sees where this is going. So you were unpopular with teh ladies and began to think men were your niche? Get real..after girls get their periods, it becomes more of a challange to get them. The "Do you like me? Check Yes or No" notes don't work as well anymore.



Every year is a fresh start, you were just too much of an idiot to figure that out.

Nope.

proving your above statement, false.



Probably because you aren't gay.


If you aren't gay..then probably so.

If they aren't gay, then this has no grounds. According to you, you aren't gay either.

Hmm..This is weird because, the girls ignoring you (or your popularity in general) in school seems to be the grounds of your "homosexuality." Practice what you preach.

Same answer as above.


No where?


Let's stop trying to get ass on the internet. That's pathetic.



Probably so.
I don't know why I came back to this site. Probably out of boredom. But oh, what a delight that I did.

Let me start out by saying that I just LOVE when people, like yourself, think they know someone and end up looking like a complete ass. And trust me, these will be that last words you'll hear from me, so don't bother replying, I'm not reading it.

I guess I should first start off with how... what is the word I'm looking for... juvenile.. no no... maybe immature... no, that's not it either. Oh I know.. how asinine it is, for people to refer to themself in the third person. "Njord is beginning to believe you're an idiot." Bitch, you're the dumbass.

This is further supported by your next sentence "Try again. This isn't a sign or evidence that you're gay." Well thank you. Did you also know that the sky is blue because it is a reflection of the ocean? Bitch, how old are you that you actually think pointing out something so obvious makes you seem smart?

And btw, human isn't a label, it's a classification. There IS a difference. And haha, once again, your comment was a smart ass remark that clearly missed the point of what I was saying. Perhaps have another member explain it to you.

"haha..Njord sees where this is going. So you were unpopular with teh ladies and began to think men were your niche? Get real..after girls get their periods, it becomes more of a challange to get them. The "Do you like me? Check Yes or No" notes don't work as well anymore."

I'm sorry, I almost died of laughter when reading this. Wait, I shouldn't say that, because when this kid comes back to read this comment he might take it literally like he has my entire previous post. (Don't call 911 kid, I'm fine)

Anyways. Perhaps I didn't explain well enough. I almost always had a girlfriend up until about the middle of 8th grade, and since then I've had more then enough offers. I wasn't the most unpopular person, I just wasn't the bmoc that I was in elementary school. (I should probably explain. It means "big man on campus".) And after girls get their periods, they don't become more of a challenge to get them, they just become bitches and you have to wear protection.

"Every year is a fresh start"

Idealistic or ignorant. I can't choose.

"If they aren't gay, then this has no grounds. According to you, you aren't gay either.

Hmm..This is weird because, the girls ignoring you (or your popularity in general) in school seems to be the grounds of your "homosexuality." Practice what you preach."

Uh.. I'll skip the whole "girls ignoring you" part, as you clearly do not know me. But it is comical, since I actually know who I'm talking about, that you would make this assumption about me.


"Then how were you born gay" I'll try to not be redundant. I was born gay. (Sarcasm people, I know that it was.)

Just because I've had a girlfriend and had sex with a woman doesn't make me straight (And this is why I hate labels.). I'm going to ask you some rhetorical questions. Were you, in the first grade, explained what being gay was? Were you ever told that things like "boyfriend and boyfriend" existed, and not just "boyfriend and girlfriend"? I'm just going to assume here, that your first grade teacher did not call you all in a circle after snack time and explain that such an atrocity as homosexuality exists. So while I did not know having a boyfriend was an option, I still had those feelings towards other guys. So how are you supposed to be gay when you don't even know the word, let alone the idea. Pull your head out of your ass.

"Let's stop trying to get ass on the internet. That's pathetic."

Get ass? Ahahaa, I almost died again. Lets make a fun analogy. I'm a unicorn hunter. If you spot one, lets go catch it together, okay?!

For your sake, I hope you can learn the difference between a rhetorical and actual statement/question.

I know I skipped some of his comments, but I don't have all day to reply.

Knowing that this kid will come back and quote most of what I said and make a failed attempt to sound intelligent, I'll excuse anything he says in advance.

I won't regret posting this, because ... well... it was entertaining. Who wouldn't want to miss out on making some dumb, probably ugly, little emo kid cry between his 6th and 7th jacking off session to WoW.

Aha, goodbye.
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I don't know why I came back to this site. Probably out of boredom. But oh, what a delight that I did.

Let me start out by saying that I just LOVE when people, like yourself, think they know someone and end up looking like a complete ass. And trust me, these will be that last words you'll hear from me, so don't bother replying, I'm not reading it.

I guess I should first start off with how... what is the word I'm looking for... juvenile.. no no... maybe immature... no, that's not it either. Oh I know.. how asinine it is, for people to refer to themself in the third person. "Njord is beginning to believe you're an idiot." Bitch, you're the dumbass.

This is further supported by your next sentence "Try again. This isn't a sign or evidence that you're gay." Well thank you. Did you also know that the sky is blue because it is a reflection of the ocean? Bitch, how old are you that you actually think pointing out something so obvious makes you seem smart?

And btw, human isn't a label, it's a classification. There IS a difference. And haha, once again, your comment was a smart ass remark that clearly missed the point of what I was saying. Perhaps have another member explain it to you.

"haha..Njord sees where this is going. So you were unpopular with teh ladies and began to think men were your niche? Get real..after girls get their periods, it becomes more of a challange to get them. The "Do you like me? Check Yes or No" notes don't work as well anymore."

I'm sorry, I almost died of laughter when reading this. Wait, I shouldn't say that, because when this kid comes back to read this comment he might take it literally like he has my entire previous post. (Don't call 911 kid, I'm fine)

Anyways. Perhaps I didn't explain well enough. I almost always had a girlfriend up until about the middle of 8th grade, and since then I've had more then enough offers. I wasn't the most unpopular person, I just wasn't the bmoc that I was in elementary school. (I should probably explain. It means "big man on campus".) And after girls get their periods, they don't become more of a challenge to get them, they just become bitches and you have to wear protection.

"Every year is a fresh start"

Idealistic or ignorant. I can't choose.

"If they aren't gay, then this has no grounds. According to you, you aren't gay either.

Hmm..This is weird because, the girls ignoring you (or your popularity in general) in school seems to be the grounds of your "homosexuality." Practice what you preach."

Uh.. I'll skip the whole "girls ignoring you" part, as you clearly do not know me. But it is comical, since I actually know who I'm talking about, that you would make this assumption about me.


"Then how were you born gay" I'll try to not be redundant. I was born gay. (Sarcasm people, I know that it was.)

Just because I've had a girlfriend and had sex with a woman doesn't make me straight (And this is why I hate labels.). I'm going to ask you some rhetorical questions. Were you, in the first grade, explained what being gay was? Were you ever told that things like "boyfriend and boyfriend" existed, and not just "boyfriend and girlfriend"? I'm just going to assume here, that your first grade teacher did not call you all in a circle after snack time and explain that such an atrocity as homosexuality exists. So while I did not know having a boyfriend was an option, I still had those feelings towards other guys. So how are you supposed to be gay when you don't even know the word, let alone the idea. Pull your head out of your ass.

"Let's stop trying to get ass on the internet. That's pathetic."

Get ass? Ahahaa, I almost died again. Lets make a fun analogy. I'm a unicorn hunter. If you spot one, lets go catch it together, okay?!

For your sake, I hope you can learn the difference between a rhetorical and actual statement/question.

I know I skipped some of his comments, but I don't have all day to reply.

Knowing that this kid will come back and quote most of what I said and make a failed attempt to sound intelligent, I'll excuse anything he says in advance.

I won't regret posting this, because ... well... it was entertaining. Who wouldn't want to miss out on making some dumb, probably ugly, little emo kid cry between his 6th and 7th jacking off session to WoW.

Aha, goodbye.
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Sigh...Njord will go ahead and bring you guys back down to whatever pathetic reality to live in.

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Let me start out by saying that I just LOVE when people, like yourself, think they know someone and end up looking like a complete ass. And trust me, these will be that last words you'll hear from me, so don't bother replying, I'm not reading it.
I won't even quote your whole post or address it sentence by sentence, because I can debunk that very long, and surely very thought out, post with this:
Njord is a detective when giving advice. He takes what he reads/hears as evidence, and uses it to make a case. So when you say:
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When I was younger, I was the typical "ladies man" or whatever. My first girlfriend was in the first grade. (Here's a tip for all of you breeders: If you want a girlfriend, try being their friend. No one wants to date an asshole.)
However, when middle school came around and being smart was no longer a good thing, I found myself at the bottom of the social pool. Needless to say, it was quite the fall from grace.
Njord takes it to mean that you had little to no social skills, including those needed to attract women. You stated nothing to make Njord believe otherwise, which is why Njord addressed your post in such a way.

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Who wouldn't want to miss out on making some dumb, probably ugly, little emo kid cry between his 6th and 7th jacking off session to WoW.
You state your own lax perspective on what is said and done online, and then subsequently proceed to divulge into the specifics of my personal life (which are unknown to you, thus making them unfounded comments) in a juvenile manner, very reminiscent of those classic insults preached amongst puberty stricken cohorts aged ten to twelve years, making it appear that you care enough about what Njord says to have to project, for your own security, a mental image of him that is inferior to the socially accepted average person. Indeed, Njord must add, it has been quite a long time since he's seen such a decisively clever quip as, "LALZ u emo g0 J4CKZ oFF 2 WoW!1!1!11one".
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I have a friend(pen) who has the exact problems you fac except that he isnt gay or i hope hr isnt...Never really knew how to make him feel better..I hope you would find a solution if you really wanted one..
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